Brother Nathanael Refutes Jordan Peterson
Peterson mistakenly conflates the Biblical theocratic nation of Israel with the secular state of today.
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Brother Nathanael Refutes Jordan Peterson
Comparing the New Testament with the Old Testament is not for dabblers.
Jordan Petersen takes a stab at it and falls flat on his face. [Clip]
[“I think one of the reasons I think the New Testament is psychologically true, let’s say, because, and this is one of the things that’s deeply embedded in the structure of the Bible, and I’m skipping ahead, that through a succession of states the people who behave properly will eventually establish the proper state. And so the state is viewed in some sense as the entity of salvation.”]
Peterson mistakenly conflates the Biblical theocratic nation of Israel with the secular state of today.
He cannot see that Biblical Israel, in which salvation resided, is the Church of the Old Testament.
And in the New, the “Commonwealth of Israel,” in which salvation now resides, is the Church expanded to the Gentiles.
Peterson is blind to the fact that the Old Testament is “predictive,” and the New Testament is “fulfillment.” [Clip]
[“And so the state is viewed in some sense as the entity of salvation. But what happens in the New Testament is that idea, gets, you could say, deconstructed. And instead of a state being the place of redemption, a state of being becomes the state of redemption. And so the idea that human beings will be redeemed moves from a utopian state vision to the responsibility of the individual. And I think that’s correct.”]
It’s incorrect.
Just a bunch of high flung, strung together nonsense.
Peterson fixes a schism between the two Testaments.
By saying that the New Testament is “psychologically true” in contrast to the Old, Peterson suggests that the Old Testament is “psychologically false.”
This borders on blasphemy.
To get a jive with modern man’s psyche, Peterson attempts to have the New Testament “deconstruct” the idea of a collective entity, boiling it down to the responsibility of the individual.
This is the Protestant error in a nutshell.
That salvation lies apart from the body of Christ, the Church.
Peterson’s position ends up with the individual shouting:
‘I don’t need to go to church, I can worship God in the forest on my own.’
(Which he doesn’t do anyways.)
This is why Protestant assemblies have broken off into a thousand competing factions. [Clip]
[“The idea that human beings will be redeemed moves from a utopian state vision to the responsibility of the individual. And I think that’s correct. I mean, I believe that that’s the right answer. And I think that the West in particular is predicated on that idea because it makes the state subservient to the individual.”]
Not sure what “West in particular” Peterson lives in.
Last time I checked, the “individual”—in actual practice—is “subservient to the state.”
The Covid mandates, showing no regard for individual choice, proves this.
What then happened to the “West,” is that the secular state—due to the Protestant Reformation—replaced the sacred collective of “The Church,” and usurped the authoritative voice of the Church.
Peterson misses the fact that the “Israel of God,” “The Church, is the focus of both the Old and New Testaments.
And that focus, the Church, which Jesus established in the New—was up until the Protestant Reformation in the West, and the fall of Byzantium in the East—the authoritative voice of civilization.
Quite frankly, people were freer and happier.
As regards “individual responsibility,” it is affirmed, contrary to Peterson’s dialectic, in the Old Testament, but not to the exclusion of the collective.
Individuals failing to meet the requirements of the Old were “cut off” from the collective.
The New “cut off” from the collective and “delivered to Satan” a man having sex with his mother-in-law.
Don’t think Peterson would like that kind of New Testament “cutting off.”
Peterson puts forth a false deity. [Clip]
[“But in the final analysis the locus of the divine is the individual not the state. And I believe that’s so true that if we don’t act it out and believe it then we all die painfully. And that’s true enough for me.”]
“Act out” what?
The “locus of the divine” in the individual?
That’s new agey stuff where women identify as goddesses and men as gods.
The “locus of the divine”—as the prophets foretold in the Old and the apostles taught in the New—is “The Church,” the “Habitation of God through the Holy Spirit.”
It boils down to this, not Peterson’s deconstruction:
Christ is the “head of the Body,” “the Church.”
If you’re not “in the Body,” then you’re not connected to its head, Jesus Christ.
You cannot worship God “on your own,” in “the forest,” if you’re not a “member” of Christ’s body.
I came out of Judaism and was baptized into the Orthodox Church.
Ah, finally!
Jesus broke the Seventh Seal!
As a new creation in Christ, I can now understand the Bible.
And grasp what life is really all about.
Nathanael,
Thank you so much!
I do think that your words are in line with the Biblicism Institute. Am I correct on this?
Sincerely,
Phil Costaggini
I agree, according to New Testament being in the Body of Christ our Lord is to be in God’s Family. Please continue on these themes. I am curious concerning your Christian Beliefs. As a Catholic I have been thinking concerning the Orthodox Faith. This, for obvious reasons since the Vatican II coup.
What is life really all about?
Dear Brother Nathanael,
This is not a comment strictly speaking, but this was the last communication i received from you.
I have to admit i am deeply worried because of your silence. I miss your wisdom and insights a great deal. Still if you just gave me a hint that you are well or anything, i would appreciate it.
I do not want to entice you to make new videos, i can watch the reruns.